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Post by magoonie on Sept 4, 2014 20:20:37 GMT -5
So, it has been discussed to death for the past ten years, maybe more, so let's discuss it some more. It's fitting this is the first topic on the WWE board. Listen, it was either this or rebooking The Invasion, Benoit or Montreal. So with Cena racking up the injuries and his full schedule clock ticking away, should Cena turn heel in the near future? Pros? Cons?
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Post by awrestlinggod on Sept 4, 2014 20:25:41 GMT -5
Let him get destroyed again by Brock, and heel turn out of frustration on some poor sucker on Raw. Brock moves on, having conquered another trophy, and Cena gets hot again.
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Post by waiting4october on Sept 4, 2014 21:03:42 GMT -5
I think that Bryan had the momentum, both with the fans and the merchandise to get pretty close to Cena's level. As interesting as the Cena turn would be, unless you have someone who justifies the quarterly T-Shirt change it just doesn't make sense to turn him yet. With Bryan being out so long, who knows if he'll get that momentum back?
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Post by Wifflebat on Sept 4, 2014 21:17:08 GMT -5
How to do it.
Have the authority beating down a popular babyface (Ambrose, Reigns, Bryan if he ever comes back), Cena's music hits for the save, he comes out doing his flailing and towel waving at full intensity, and clear the ring....WITHOUT actually touching any of the heels. Then when they're cowering in the aisle, he puts the hand in front of the face and does "YOU CANT SEE.....(turns to babyface)...ME, YOU STUPID MOTHERFU(BANG!)!
Heel turn done, money drawing program set up.
I have spoken. I doubt I'll spend much more time worrying about it but if they do it, that should be how.
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Post by dbsm on Sept 4, 2014 21:24:52 GMT -5
Con: The WWE hasn't built up anyone to be on his level and have shown no interest in doing so.
Not gonna happen. Right, Dean?
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Post by abeyance1 on Sept 4, 2014 21:31:32 GMT -5
Pros: It'll be different.
Cons: The fans will cheer him then.
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Post by The Biff on Sept 4, 2014 23:03:27 GMT -5
The constant knock against a Cena heel turn has always been 'How will you replace the merchandise?' The problem with this logic is that it basically suggests that a heel is incapable of moving merchandise. A wrestling heel needn't be a cowardly chickenshit; is there anything wrong with Cena becoming a 'corporate mercenary', a shameless badass heel that rubs in the fact that he greased people for money all those years with that hokey 'Hustle! Loyalty! Respect!' schitck? What you lose in little children marketing could be made up in the number of people who would warm to the guy strictly with a freshening up of the character. And badass heel characters can move as much merchandise as faces can under the right circumstances. The original nWo shirts were for a heel faction, and Austin 3:16 shirts started selling like crazy long before Austin became a face.
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Post by starscreamlive on Sept 5, 2014 7:09:31 GMT -5
Hey have to have a credible baby face to do all of the Make A Wish stuff and market to kids. Once they establish that person, Cena can turn. They were going for Sheamus a few years ago, and now Reigns. I don't see anyone on the roster becoming the future Cena anytime soon.
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Post by The Lovematic Grampa! on Sept 5, 2014 10:07:40 GMT -5
So, it has been discussed to death for the past ten years, maybe more, so let's discuss it some more. It's fitting this is the first topic on the WWE board. Listen, it was either this or rebooking The Invasion, Benoit or Montreal. So with Cena racking up the injuries and his full schedule clock ticking away, should Cena turn heel in the near future? Pros? Cons? I think the match with Bryan could have been the start of something interesting: he loses clean and maintains the "good for you, man" act, but becomes increasingly more intense and slightly heelish. Then he cheats to win in the rematch a few months down the road, but in a way that it is debatable if it was intentional. So Bryan comes out the next RAW to question him, and then the turn becomes official. Certainly would have been a better fall feud than Abeyance and Orton vs. Show (lowest Survivor Series buyrate in history!) and Bryan certainly can handle the babyface load. |
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Post by dbsm on Sept 5, 2014 23:43:41 GMT -5
I think the other problem with turning him heel is -- and he touched on this in a promo once -- I don't think it can be assumed he'll be cheered. Yeah, some of the smarks may convert cause of the FUCK YEAH ANTI-REBELLION CM PUNK CM PUNK CM PUNK YES CHANT RAN-DY SA-VAGE mindset, but honestly, it's still gonna be Cena and his moveset, and is it worth alienating a giant chunk of the audience for the maybe half of the other half (so 25%) cheering him possibly? I don't think so, and neither does Vince apparently.
They shouldn't, because he is still money, and you don't leave it on the table (and you make more with him as the face). What they should do, like with Bryan and Punk briefly, is they need a [HASH]1B babyface to go with Cena. Cena pops the kiiddies, and the smark darling pops the adult males, and have them running main event feuds concurrently and now you have two great streams of revenue instead of slicing your best one way down just to please a sometimes-unpleasable portion of the fanbase.
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